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The Magi

A group for those who are interested in magic for its own sake, without the adornment of a religious or spiritual system.

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Comment by Sam Morgan on July 27, 2009 at 7:38am
As a veil walker, do you have a problem with getting a foot stuck in both worlds. When I was spending a lot of time on the other side. It got to the point that I couldn't totally leave. The two sides started to become tranparent. The shadow people and animals started to blend with this dimension. It is interesting to be able to interact with beings of another dimension. Sometimes when they are in a playful mood, they do make me laugh. I can't say that I have great works to do. I just make people laugh when I see trouble in their aura. I can manifest anything that I need. I play with my entities and elementals that I live with. I try to make this world a little more fun and loving place to live in. Not very exciting stuff but I do make a differents in peoples lives. Love to you and yours.
Comment by Dark Arckana on July 26, 2009 at 9:59pm
"Dark Arckana do you travel on the other side of the veil? Interesting place." To say the least. lol In fact, sometimes I wish I would "die" (I've questioned the validity of the concept of "death". I think there are other ways to model it) just to be there permanently. But I have a great work to accomplish, so until I get that done, I don't have the convenience.
Comment by Sam Morgan on July 26, 2009 at 6:53pm
air=gas
fire=energy
water=liquid
earth=solid

air=sword
fire=wand
water=cup
earth=pentagram

air=our thoughts
fire=passions
water=emotions
earth=bodies

air=as you begin
fire=state of purpose
water=process of manifestation
earth=anticipate
Comment by Sam Morgan on July 26, 2009 at 4:49pm
Dark Arckana do you travel on the other side of the veil? Interesting place.
Comment by Sam Morgan on July 26, 2009 at 4:46pm
Well said Dark Arckana. I am impressed. Thanks to very one, we have a discussion worth thinking about. I think of Chos as a spell cast that was not though out completely and it went wrong. Easier to create magick than to undo magick. When you cast spell after spell to undo what has been done. Creating total chaos in your life. I think of ley line magick as chaos magick. Gaia's magnetic lines are of different vibration rate at different times. None stable energy source creating nonperdictible out come in your magick. I have a very nice ley line next to my house. I enjoy tapping into its energy by I can not harness it for magick. Happy magicking to all.
Comment by Dark Arckana on July 26, 2009 at 1:25am
... just like one can determine the temperature using the F scale and the C scale and still be able to cook up yummy soup! ^_^
Comment by Dark Arckana on July 26, 2009 at 1:23am
"Outside of the solar system, how would you measure time?" Speed/Process.

"Alchemy time changes with each day, 7:30 today is not the same as 7:30 tomorrow...These questions are important for Magick does not have limits. Different sect have different beliefs that they work magick to. They use different time tables but they all perform wonderful magick. Your thoughts please." Just like Christian time, they're systems of measurements and each sect has a system of magick that is based on their particular scale of measurement.
Comment by Dark Arckana on July 26, 2009 at 1:11am
In regards to your question about magick in relation to the universe, from what I can tell, the power of magick comes from "becoming" the magick not just practicing it. In other words, you have to "let the magick go" in order to work it. There is no separation between that which we call the "Self", the "Magick" and "The Universe". I could go into a long-winded explanation, but instead, I'll pass the baton over to my good friend Alan Watts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aufuwMiKmE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZ8WeLrtFnY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RcjATFcbq4
Comment by Dark Arckana on July 26, 2009 at 1:06am
"Dark Arckana thanks for adding to the talk on time." I didn't, but I'm glad that no one minded. =O) Good question, Sam. From my experience all time happens occurs simultaneously in the spirit world (I prefer that term over "Astral"). This is why entities can exist in multiple places at multiple times, as noted by Aleister Crowley. "... my next topic I wanted to talk about. Do we have Free Will (a chaos universe) or predestiny (orderly universe)? When we do magick are we changing the universe or is the magick already done and we are changing us (changing vibration rate) to align with that magick so we notice it's out come?" Well, honestly Sam I don't believe that free-will and chaos are the same, nor do I believe that predestiny and order are the same. Chaos does not necessarily mean "no order". It just means a very complex order that may not even have a predictable pattern. I'll use a basic example from Chaos Science. Let's say I took two chocolate chips and put them on the opposite sides of a piece of flat dough and then proceed to kneed the dough. After I was finished kneading the dough, the chocolate ended up right next to each other. There is an order in which the chocolate chips went from being completely to being right next together. But that order is very complex and no pattern can be discerned from it. Also, there is a bit of chaos within order as well. If you plant an apple seed, you will grow an apple tree. But not every apple tree produces the same number of apples. Not every apple tree is the same height and has the same shape of branches. Let's not even talk about the same principle in human beings. lol Also I don't believe that "predestiny" qualifies as "order". That's more like "controlled conditions". Order in controlled conditions is a myth and a misconception about the nature of order that all authorities figures like to teach us. Free will, however, does qualify as chaos since free will can produce. Chaos, refers to something primordial. However, free will can also fall into the category of order, as there can be no free will without personal order. Without personal order (ie: genuine self-discipline), one is a slave to what they fail to discipline themselves to.
Comment by Sam Morgan on July 25, 2009 at 4:25pm
Linear what do you think?
 

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