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do you believe that matter and spirit are separate realms?

i would like to introduce this topic discussion, before saying what I think...

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Permalink Reply by goat on January 4, 2009 at 6:26pm

I think that matter is stationary, while the spirit continues on with its purpose. we may are born, we most certainly die, but our spirits come, and they go. were (our bodies) are just carriers of the spirit, and all that surrounds us is really an illusion. how do we know for curten that were not spirits now, and just on our way to the next life?

Permalink Reply by Founder on October 9, 2009 at 5:06pm

Everything is illusion, cause in a state of continuous change, except the One...

Permalink Reply by Ena on July 18, 2010 at 2:07am

matter is NOT stationary..you MOVE you THINK..you ACT upon..matter is forming energies..just some THINGS are impossible to move..i.e. mountains..(with extreme force, yes, ALL things move) but you get the gist..

Illusion?! I think NOT..then you would NOT be able to utilize the 6 senses! (and there are more for some..) (being a Pagan..enlightens you to the 6th sense and beyond..if you are willing to go) I don't know about your lifestyle, but for sure mine is not an illusion, and we ARE spiritual or you would not believe in Deity..(too many VR games can make one delusional..might need to put that controller down..LOL)

We are reincarnated..until we are considered PERFECT..
Blessings!

Permalink Reply by Ena on July 18, 2010 at 1:59am

of course they are! Matter comes from Spirit; Thoughts BECOME things! In life we think the thought, and then with that idea, we create the matter that exists from that one thought. I can DO..but I have to THINK HOW to do first...

Deity plays a role in this, because of being grateful and open..Whomever you believe in, more power to your thought process! We can move forward if we KNOW where that Universal Energies are originated from..

Blessings!

Permalink Reply by Founder on July 18, 2010 at 9:11am

Ena,

Do not get fooled: by Illusion I mean the state of the soul when becomes generated from the One in the realm of matter.

Consequently all the descent of the soul in the matter is only real for the subject (our body and soul) but like in a dream, when the dream is over, also our experience stops. This is why the voyage of the soul inside the matter can be seen as an illusion and actually IT is an illusion. Like our incarnation in the matter still part of the cosmic illusion...

Only the originator, the One, since it's the only unchangeable reality, is real. It is real cause is not generated but continuously present to itself.
All the rest of the creation is an illusion even including the cosmic energies, known as the Gods.

Do you know what I mean?....lol...

Permalink Reply by Katmir Stone on February 6, 2015 at 8:04am

I believe that everything is made of something. Your thoughts can be seen as electrical impulses, and even beyond that since I believe an immortal spirit inhabits a mortal body to make it a living soul (for example). An intelligence can manifest an idea into actions that have effect from the originating particle of the individual to the mundane world and into the universe. You know, like reinventing the flashlight and clicking it on into the night sky. All is matter.